R.D. Clarke's abusive emails

by Matt Slick

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The original e-mails are in black, and I have inserted occasional comments in green. I highlighted abusive material from Clarke in bold brown. These are worth looking at. Notice the accusatory tone. The reason these e-mails were important is because it appears that R.D. Clarke and Cheryl Schatz are the same person.  But the fact is, it was Cheryl Schatz posing as R.D. Clarke, being very accusatory and abusive, and then later lied about not being R. D. Clarke.

The emails in this article are listed from oldest on top, to newest on the bottom.

I am compared to thieves, adulterers, and abusers. I'm told that I'm covering my sin, that I am a runner, that I willfully abused Cheryl by lying about her teaching. But I attacked her character. I called her a name used only for the enemies of the cross. And I'm a coward, That I'm not repentant of being on abuser. That I have willfully lied about Cheryl. That I was angry at the radio station for airing Schatz's material.

My address was researched and posted in the e-mail (which are removed)

 

July 13, 2008

I gave you a second chance to show that you are a truth lover. You blew it.

The term "truth lover" is a phrase that Cheryl Schatz use regularly. I did a search on the discussion boards for the phrase and found that it was only used by her and one place where Diane.S. used it in response to her. I've spoken to Diane about it and she says that she was trying to turn Cheryl's words back upon her.

What you are doing now is classic. It is an "attack the person" and "kick the dirt" to create a cloud of dust in order for you to run away without anyone noticing. This is done in order to make the person forget what they have asked. What you don't realize is that I am educated in dealing with people who are runners. I have been doing this for probably more years than you have been in ministry. What you are doing is the classic piece of work I get from thieves, adulterers and abusers. I was sure hoping you were actually a truth lover and not a stiff necked man who refuses to deal with his own sin. You are consistently talking about your own sin on your radio show. What I don't hear is how you have repented and humbled yourself and ask for forgiveness. I can now see why. God is dealing with you but you are covering over your sin. Those who cover over their sin will not prosper. When are you going to give up and take your lumps? Is this one a hill to die on for you because you couldn't possibly admit that you were wrong regarding an egalitarian? Or do you act this way with everyone? You have sinned and the sooner you own up to the damage you have done to another believer and seek God to change your heart and your ways, the sooner God will be able to bless you.

If you aren't going to prove what you claimed to be the truth, then just go your way. I will reconsider if you repent but if you are going to play this game with me we have nothing to discuss. I can see right through you. I have already advised every single person (52 in total) that I brought to your feet for doctrinal help, the vast amount to support of your ministry and to learn apologetics. Those whom I heard back from thus far are agreeing with me 100% to give your ministry a miss. I feel great sadness for you because of your inability to take responsibility.

 

Notice the repeated accusations. I am associated with thieves, adulterers, and abusers. I am accused of 'covering my sins.' And, she has urged people to stop supporting CARM. Quite an attack, isn't it?


Dr. R. D. Clarke

 


Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:35:36 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Waiting for phone number



Still waiting for information requested.

Please provide me your phone number and the phone number to your pastor.

You have accused me of sin.

I want to talk to you and your pastor.

What are the phone numbers?

 

I repeatedly asked R.D. Clarke (Cheryl) for phone numbers to him/her and his/her pastor. They were never given. Why? What is Cheryl afraid of?


 

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, RD Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:

I am not angry with you. I am embarrassed for you and because of every non-Christian that sees a "Christian" male act in an abusive fashion towards someone who doesn't deserve his disdain. This is pure and simple abuse. This is your sister in Christ whom you are commanded to love. You have willfully abused her by lying about her teaching and by attacking her character along with calling her the name that is saved for enemies of the cross. When men do this to each other, it is bad enough but you are acting as a bully to a woman. I am thoroughly disgusted and in my professional opinion, I believe you are a coward. You run away from your problems and fail to own up to your sin.

Go kick the dirt somewhere else. Either start praying that God gives you a new heart instead of your stiff neck or go along your merry way. With the attitude you have you will not be useful to the kingdom of God. Your works are as filthy rags if they are not done with humility and love. You have shown neither to this woman who is your sister in Christ. I deal with abusers almost every day in my profession. Some are repentant and others are not. You are merely one of the "nots". I am embarrassed also that there haven't been real godly men out there who have cared enough about you to yank you out of ministry until you have gone through a restoration process. This abusive behavior towards Christians must stop. You should never have been allowed to go this long with this attitude. Why hasn't your own pastor counseled you?

Dr. R. D. Clarke

I'm accused of acting in an abusive fashion, of willfully lying, attacking Cheryl's character, and calling her a name that is saved fro enemies of the cross. Of course, that 'name' isn't specified, but the accusation is made. Again, I'm called an abuser again, a coward, and told that I am unrepentant.


 

July 14, 2008

I am not angry with you. I am embarrassed for you and because of every non-Christian that sees a "Christian" male act in an abusive fashion towards someone who doesn't deserve his disdain. This is pure and simple abuse. This is your sister in Christ whom you are commanded to love. You have willfully abused her by lying about her teaching and by attacking her character along with calling her the name that is saved for enemies of the cross. When men do this to each other, it is bad enough but you are acting as a bully to a woman. I am thoroughly disgusted and in my professional opinion, I believe you are a coward. You run away from your problems and fail to own up to your sin.

Go kick the dirt somewhere else. Either start praying that God gives you a new heart instead of your stiff neck or go along your merry way. With the attitude you have you will not be useful to the kingdom of God. Your works are as filthy rags if they are not done with humility and love. You have shown neither to this woman who is your sister in Christ. I deal with abusers almost every day in my profession. Some are repentant and others are not. You are merely one of the "nots". I am embarrassed also that there haven't been real godly men out there who have cared enough about you to yank you out of ministry until you have gone through a restoration process. This abusive behavior towards Christians must stop. You should never have been allowed to go this long with this attitude. Why hasn't your own pastor counseled you?

Dr. R. D. Clarke

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July 15, 2008

Apparently the radio studio, Schatz's pastor and you yourself were all given the audio documentation about your public lie on the radio. The radio station responded to the documentation concerning this lie by offering her air time. Her pastor responded to the documentation concerning this lie by confronting you. You have responded to the documentation concerning the lie by....? David repented when he was confronted. Those who love their style of attacking fellow Christians will turn and attack everyone who calls them to account. I have no doubt that you have expressed anger to the radio station and Schatz's pastor and of course Schatz herself. This is what abusers do. They blame everyone else but themselves. This is exactly what Adam did when he was called to account. "God, it isn't my fault. She is to blame." How am I doing? Do I have your number?

I spoke to the radio station manager about why they aired her material. I was told it was because Cheryl Schatz sounded litigious and the station was only trying to cover its own rear. It has absolutely nothing to do with the "so-called lie". I expressed no anger to the radio station whatsoever. I didn't care what they did. In fact, I was told that a lot of complaints came in by listeners who thought her stuff was ridiculous.

Notice how "R.D. Clarke" is quick to accuse me of sin. This person (Cheryl) is obsessed with vindication.

Your claim of a selective memory doesn't fool me in the least. Please save your forgetfulness for others who may not realize how slick you really are.

Regarding what you have said about Schatz? How about heretic? Sound familiar? How about all the names that your vice-president has hurled her way under your esteemed leadership? "Enemy" was one of my personal favorites right after "evil Cheryl". The vitriol on your board has left a very bad taste in everyone's mouth except for those that you have trained to charge at the smell of blood. Vultures flock where vultures live.

Lastly, I do not know why you are asking me for a different email account when I do not have gmail. My email address is [email protected] You may forward this email to yourself at any of your other email address and respond from there.

I will expect a response from you that you are going to publicly repent. If you refuse to do that, I don't see any reason why you might want to correspond with me. I am the last person you can pull the wool over the eyes. All I will do is spoil your fun.

You may not have the phone number of my pastor. He doesn't take calls from those who rip apart the sheep for sport. I has always appreciated his wisdom.

I suggest you give your own pastor a call and schedule a counseling session.

Dr. R. D. Clarke

Notice Clarke's very accusatory tone. It is as though this person is very angry. Now think about it. Why would Cheryl be riding under anonymous name? Is it to the vent, to anonymously accuse? Is it to make her feel better and get stuff off her chest? Apparently.

 


Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:09:34 -0600


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Waiting for phone number

Can you please tell me what lies I am supposed to have said about Cheryl? Exactly how, according to you, did I attack her character? Can you give me some specifics?

Finally, why are you so angry?

Matt

ps, i'm having an issue with gmail. Generally, I only do gmail on this laptop at the station and I think I have to rebuild this computer because it is getting slower. So, do you have another email account I can contact you at besides gmail?

I like to do certain emails certain ways: gmail here at the station, yahoo.com and hotmail.com at the office, etc.. It helps me keep things organized.

So, if and when I rebuild my laptop, I'll not be looking at gmail for a while and I want to know why you are so angry. Besides, I might be out of the studio for a few days when I do some anti-mormonism work in another city.

Matt

oh... I'd still like the phone # to your pastor. You are a Christian, right?

 


[email protected]

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: RD Clarke <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: Waiting for phone number
To: CARM Radio <[email protected]>

"ps, i'm having an issue with gmail. Generally, I only do gmail on this laptop at the station and I think I have to rebuild this computer because it is getting slower."

Try using Firefox. I dropped IE a long time ago and my computer is now much faster and so is gmail.

PS I heard through the grapevine that you have agreed to meet with Schatz for a Matthew 18 meeting. Is this true?

Dr. R. D. Clarke



From an email "Asking once more. #4" Dated 7/29/08 6:14PM

"The telephone phone company records are quite easy to find. You have three phone listings as I am sure you already know.Your office number is listed. Your unlisted home phone number also listed to Annick's use is clearly in your home in Nampa. It is a shame when a man lies over something so trivial. It would have been an honorable thing to admit that you did not tell the truth. You, sir, did not do the honorable thing and this speaks volumes to me about your character."

On 8/3/08, I responded with this email titled "Asking once more #5." #5 is for tracking purposes. Also, I included .readnotify.com in the email address to trace the IP. (readnotify.com is an ip tracking system for emails)


"you can't be that dumb...
I'll lay it out again.
I have a cell, my wife has a cell, we also have an office #....and, shhhhh (don't tell anyone).... we have another cell!!!! whoa!
When did I say I "only" have anything???? Remember? It was YOU who misrepresented the truth....
Anyway, we don't have a home phone... we use cells and CARM has an office #. Sometimes my wife uses her cell as the home phone contact, but it is her cell.
Now.... i suggest you stop being dumb and stop accusing me of sin.
I want your pastor's # now!
You may apologize to me in your next email. If you don't, then supply your pastor's # or shut up.
You have falsely accused me of lying..that is the charge against you.
Come on now, are you cheryl?
are you in the same house with cheryl?
Do you know her?
come on now... important questions for later....
Matt Slick"

At this time I'll remind you that Cheryl and R.D. Clarke use the same IP address; that is, they were used in the same computer. It is certainly possible that two different people would use the same computer different times but considering the similarity of attack between the two, the obsessive focus on this topic, etc., I think it's quite reasonable to conclude that the same person. I began to ask specifically if this person was Cheryl.

 

 

 

 
 
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