R.D. Clarke and Cheryl Schatz use the same IP Address

by Matt Slick

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Below is the e-mail with its history that shows how Shaw high speed Internet service has stated that the IP address used by both R.D. Clarke and Cheryl Schatz are "specific to one person". This means that R.D. Clarke and Cheryl Schatz use the same computer.  But, R.D. Clarke claims he does not know who Cheryl does not know who Cheryl is. Is this a blatant lie?

 


----- Original Message ----
From: Shaw Internet Victoria Help
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 10:18:55 PM
Subject: RE: Shaw IP addresses

Hello and thanks for taking the time to e-mail us. This IP would be specific to one person.

Regards,

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Fraser

E-Mail Support Team

Shaw High-Speed Internet Service

When sending a reply to us, please remember to include all previous correspondence!

Many answers to your questions can be found here:

http://www.shaw.ca

Other contact information:

Email:               [email protected]

Phone:              475-5655 option 1, 1, 2

Web:                http://www.shaw.ca

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From: carm.org ([email protected]) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:44 PM
To: Shaw Internet Victoria Help
Subject: Re: Shaw IP addresses


Sorry to bother you again but your answer was not completely understood or clear enough. I understand that each customer gets a separate IP address. Thank you.

The IP address reported on our forum for a person of 24.67.215.128 shaw cable, is then the IP of an individual to a shaw cable customer or is this IP to a router/hub of some sort?   We want to be very clear before banning an IP that we are only banning one person and not a hub/router for shaw cable.

Can you tell us yes or no, is the IP number given and we can be confident that the IP address 24.67.215.128 is to one computer/customer only and not a hub?

Thank you so much, but again, we do want to be sure.

CARM Ministry

Thank you for writing to the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (www.carm.org)

 

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----- Original Message ----
From: Shaw Internet Victoria Help
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 3:51:30 PM
Subject: RE: Shaw IP addresses

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to email us.

Each customer gets a separate dynamic IP address. If you are receiving harassing emails from Shaw Cable customers, we would suggest you forward those to our internet abuse team – they can be reached at [email protected]

Please let us know if we could be of any further assistance to you.

Thank you for choosing Shaw! 
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Matt
E-Mail Support Team
Shaw High-Speed Internet Service

When sending a reply to us, please remember to include all previous correspondence!

Many answers to your questions can be found here:
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/CustomerCare/

Other contact information:
Email:               [email protected]
Phone:              http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/CustomerCare/ContactUs/InformationDirectory.htm

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From: carm.org ([email protected]) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:43 PM
To: Shaw Internet Victoria Help
Subject: Shaw IP addresses

 

Hello, Need information concerning shaw cable internet IP addresses. We run a very large discussion forum and web based ministry in the USA. Recently we have had difficulties with users from shawcable Canada and harassment, through emails and web postings. We seem to have difficulties with persons using the IP address: 24.67.215.128 We do have at least two individuals claiming to be different names however they do have the same IP above. Do you give the same IP to different customers? Our question is that we would like to know if your service gives a different IP address to each user or is the IP address posting on our forum used by different homes, businesses before we would report the abuses?  Is the number above the individual private IP or simply a generic IP given to many? We want to be sure when reporting two individuals names harrassing us with the same IP, that they are in fact one person. Thank you for your time in this matter. It would be helpful if you could tell us whether or not we need to report the IP abuse or individual user names.  Thank you for writing to the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (www.carm.org)



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Below is the readnotify response that reveals the emailer's ip address. I highlighted it in red.

 

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ReadNotify email tracking history

We individually track all recipients of the emails you send. If you CC or BCC multiple=" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> To

[email protected]

Technically; this shows your %22Envelope Sender%22 address, not what was in your email headers."), CAPTION, unescape("From:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> From

[email protected]
Subject Re: question again

More specifically - this time records the moment that our servers first attempted to deliver your tracked email to your chosen recipient. If your own ISP or email provider is suffering delay problems, this time will be later than the time that you actually sent your email. If your recipients ISP or email provider is suffering delays, this time will be earlier than the time your message was actually delivered.

Note that you can check your Personal Tracking Page for the delivery status of your emails; and/or you can enable our Delivery Service Notification (%22DSN%22) feature - both of these let you know when your recipients email system is experiencing delay problems.

Due to the connectionless nature of email and problems with Spam, it is not uncommon to find email providers and ISPs suffering short delays, often regularly."), CAPTION, unescape("Sent on:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Sent on

28-Jul-08 at 02:27:54am 'US/Eastern' time
1st Open
28-Jul-08 at 11:46:03am   -4:00 (86%) Kaslo, British Columbia, Canada


Tracking Details

Opened at apparent address of: [email protected]

We also show the elapsed time since you sent the email.

Hover your mouse over the date to see additional information (specifically; the actual date record in GMT/UTC universal time)."), CAPTION, unescape("First Activity:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Opened

28-Jul-08 at 11:46:03am (UTC -4:00)   -   9hours18mins9secs after sending

This is usually in the same town or city of the reader, but it is possible for long distance dial-up or anonymizing connections to be used (especially with AOL) which can reduce location accuracy.

We also report an accuracy percentage indicator - lower numbers mean we had less geographic data to base our report on."), CAPTION, unescape("Approximate Location:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Location

Kaslo, British Columbia, Canada (86% likelihood)
Opened on S01060080c811c04f.wk.shawcable.net (24.67.215.128:9965)

We report the actual ISO codes received from the reader as well as the expanded definition(s)."), CAPTION, unescape("Language:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Language

of recipient's PC: en-us (English/United States), en;q=0.5 (English)

We report the raw codes returned by each browser. "), CAPTION, unescape("Browser:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Browser

used by recipient: Moz/5.0 (Win; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1

We report the raw codes returned by each browser. "), CAPTION, unescape("Accepts:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Accepts

Files browser can open: i/png,i/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5

These URLs work only for the recipient with correct authentication - you cannot use them yourself."), CAPTION, unescape("Referrer:"), STICKY, MOUSEOFF);}" onmouseout="if(window.o3Loaded){return nd();}" align="right" bgcolor="#ece9d8"> Referrer

http://by106w.­bay106.­mail.­live.­com/mail/InboxLight.­aspx?FolderID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&­InboxSortAscending=False&­InboxSortBy=Date&­n=1823015019,http://by106w.­bay106.­mail.­live.­com/mail/EditMessageLight.­aspx?ReadMessageId=17701fc6-b70c-4045-b997-bf898411776e&­FolderID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&­CP=-1&­n=572177985&­Action=Reply&­AllowUnsafe=True,http://by106w.­bay106.­mail.­live.­com/mail/InboxLight.­aspx?FolderID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&­InboxSortAscending=False&­InboxSortBy=Date&­n=132137554,http://by106w.­bay106.­mail.­live.­com/mail/EditMessageLight.­aspx?ReadMessageId=17701fc6-b70c-4045-b997-bf898411776e&­FolderID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&­CP=-1&­n=143090095&­Action=Reply&­AllowUnsafe=True
Last log No more activity after 28-Jul-08 at 11:47:44am (UTC -4:00)   -   Log data indicates email was read for at least 1min41secs (approx.)
Summary   -   as at 28-Jul-08 at 13:03:00pm (UTC -4:00)   - 10hours35mins6secs after sending
Total Opened 1 time by 1 reader




IP Documentation from CARM discussion boards

On the CARM discussion boards Cheryl Schatz goes by WIM (short for Women in Ministry).  This is her IP Address.  I copied and pasted the IP search here.  The IP address is bolded and is in Red.  No other person on the boards has used that IP address.  Also notice that is traces back to wk.shawcable.net

WIM's IP Address for this post
IP AddressHost Name
24.67.215.128S01060080c811c04f.wk.shawcable.net
Users sharing the same IP Address
User
Nobody is sharing the same IP with this user
All IPs for this user - 30 Days
PostsIP Address
724.67.215.128

 
 
About The Author

Matt Slick is the President and Founder of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry.