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A Muslim denies Jesus and plays word games Raw Text

by | Dec 21, 2008 | Dialogues, Apologetics

lil MUSLIM lil: MOSES SAW GOD! AND HE DID NOT DIE lil MUSLIM lil: TEXT WILL BE SAVED!
lil MUSLIM lil: : )
Matt Slick: Look lil MUSLIM lil: ?
Matt Slick: I am trying to be patient with you but you are not listening
lil MUSLIM lil: NOT LISTENING?
lil MUSLIM lil: WE ARE NOT IN A VOICE ROOM, ARE WE?
Matt Slick: Would you please stop playing games
lil MUSLIM lil: I AM NOT PLAYING ANY GAME
Matt Slick: I’ve tried to tell you about what is called “theophanies”
lil MUSLIM lil: I HATE PLAYING GAMES WHEN IT IS ABOUT GOD.
Matt Slick: They are the physical manifestation of God in the Old Testament
lil MUSLIM lil: OH
Matt Slick: It does not mean that God has a body of flesh and bones
lil MUSLIM lil: OKAY
Matt Slick: It means that God manifests himself in order for people to see him
lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT WE SEE
Matt Slick: Jesus specifically says that no one has ever seen the Father John 6:46
lil MUSLIM lil: IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IS GOD…?
lil MUSLIM lil: LIKE THE ANGEL.
Matt Slick: But they were seeing God in the Old Testament
lil MUSLIM lil: ?? lil MUSLIM lil: ?????????
lil MUSLIM lil: ANSWER
Matt Slick: Therefore, they were not seen the Father, they were seeing the Son
lil MUSLIM lil: MY QUESTION
Matt Slick: This demonstrates that Jesus is God in flesh lil MUSLIM lil: EXCUSE ME
Matt Slick: There is much written about this in Christian theology
lil MUSLIM lil: DO YOU MEAN THAT JESUS IS NOT GOD?
Matt Slick: I suggest that you take time to study it
Matt Slick: And I also suggest that you stop playing games with a
lil MUSLIM lil: EXCUSE ME AGAIN
Matt Slick: me
lil MUSLIM lil: YOU SAID GOD, IN FLESH Matt Slick: I’m not interested in playing games.
lil MUSLIM lil: QUESTION: DOES THAT MEAN HE IS GOD THE FATHER?
Matt Slick: See? This shows that you do not understand Christian theology
Matt Slick: We do not say that Jesus is God the Father
lil MUSLIM lil: I SURELY DON’T
Matt Slick: Again, you demonstrate that you do not understand what the doctrine of the Trinity is
lil MUSLIM lil: THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME ASK QUESTIONS lil MUSLIM lil: OH OH
lil MUSLIM lil: WAIT
lil MUSLIM lil: A SECOND Matt Slick: You need to study it before you start asking so many questions and start playing games
Matt Slick: www.carm.org has lots of information on the Trinity and the incarnation
lil MUSLIM lil: JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE “NOT” ONE?
Matt Slick: It also has information on Islam lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN?
lil MUSLIM lil: OH NO
Matt Slick: Why do you stick to one topic at a time instead of jumping all over the place?
lil MUSLIM lil: I DO NOT GO TO TOILET TO GET BREAD TOASTED
Matt Slick: Why don’t you… that is.
lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN? <<<<<< ANSWER PLEASE.
Matt Slick: In John 10:30 the context means that he is claiming to be equal to God (the Father)
lil MUSLIM lil: OH
lil MUSLIM lil: SO
lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS “LYING”
Matt Slick: The Pharisees did not believe that Jesus Christ was God in flesh. At me ask you….
lil MUSLIM lil: CAUGHT LYING IN JOHN 10:30
lil MUSLIM lil: HMM..
Matt Slick: Do you believe that Jesus is God in flesh?
lil MUSLIM lil: NO WONDER HE FOLLOWED THE DEVIL IN MATTHEW 4
lil MUSLIM lil: ME?
lil MUSLIM lil: DO I HAVE TO?
lil MUSLIM lil: WHY SHOULD I?
Matt Slick: I asked you a question
Matt Slick: I have been answering many of your questions and you have not answered mine. lil MUSLIM lil: HE AND THE FATHER ARE NOT ONE!
lil MUSLIM lil: AND HE LIED
lil MUSLIM lil: POOR
Matt Slick: Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh or not?
lil MUSLIM lil: NOT REALLY
lil MUSLIM lil: YOU HAVE BEEN POSTING LINKS
lil MUSLIM lil: I SAID HE AND THE FATHER ARE NOT ONE
Matt Slick: Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh or not? lil MUSLIM lil: BESIDES HE WAS CAUGHT LYING IN JOHN 10:30
lil MUSLIM lil: GOD DOES NOT LIE
lil MUSLIM lil: AND HE IS NOT SEEN ?
Matt Slick: Are you saying that Jesus was a liar?
lil MUSLIM lil: 1 TIMOTHY 6 lil MUSLIM lil: :16
Matt Slick: You are a Muslim calling the holy Prophet Jesus a liar?
Matt Slick: Is this what Islam teaches you?
lil MUSLIM lil: Matt Slick: Are you saying that Jesus was a liar?
Matt Slick: How dare you accuse the Prophet Jesus of lying
lil MUSLIM lil: ASK YOUR SELF MATT
Matt Slick: Jesus never lied
Matt Slick: But you are saying he did Matt Slick: I will have to keep this text
lil MUSLIM lil: IS THE BIBLE THAT WAS WRITTEN BY PAUL, TELLING YOU THAT TRUTH?
lil MUSLIM lil: BUT HE FOLLOWED SATAN
Matt Slick: You will not answer my questions lil MUSLIM lil: ?
Matt Slick: You avoid my questions
lil MUSLIM lil: SURE THING lil MUSLIM lil:
lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN? <<<<<< ANSWER PLEASE.
Matt Slick: Do you believe Jesus Christ is God and flesh or not?
lil MUSLIM lil:
Matt Slick: In John 10:30 the context means that he is claiming to be equal to God (the Father)
lil MUSLIM lil:
lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS “LYING”
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
lil MUSLIM lil: lil MUSLIM lil: CAUGHT LYING IN JOHN 10:30
Matt Slick: I already answered you. It means that Jesus Christ is claiming equality with God (the Father). I have answered you again.
Matt Slick: Yet, you will not answer me.
lil MUSLIM lil: NO
lil MUSLIM lil: I BELIEVE HE WAS A MAN Matt Slick: So, I ask you again, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh?
lil MUSLIM lil: ACTS 2:22
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
lil MUSLIM lil: I ASK YOU AGAIN, WHY SHOULD I?
lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS CAUGHT LYING IN JOHN 10:30
lil MUSLIM lil: ISN’T THAT ENOUGH?! TO MAKE YOU HATE JESUS? Matt Slick: So, you accuse Jesus of lying?
lil MUSLIM lil: BESIDES lil MUSLIM lil: IN MATTHEW HE FOLLOWED THE SHAYTAAN
Matt Slick: I would never accuse Jesus of being a liar. Why do you do that?
lil MUSLIM lil: AND ALSO, IN GAL 3:13 HE WAS MADE A ”
Matt Slick: And why do not answer my questions? Are you afraid to answer me?
lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS A CURSE!
lil MUSLIM lil: WELL
Matt Slick: “It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels bow down to Adam, and they bowed down; not so Iblis; he refused to be of those who bow down. 12 (Allah) said: “What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee?” He said: “I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay.” 13 (Allah) said: “Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures).” 14 He said: “Give me respite till the day they are raised up.” 15 (Allah) said: “Be thou amongst those who have respite.” (Surah 7:11-15)
lil MUSLIM lil: THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO ASK YOU ABOUT
Matt Slick: See how Allah obeyed Satan in the Quran
lil MUSLIM lil: WAS JESUS LYING? IN JOHN 10:30????????????????????????????????????????????????????? << ANSWER THAT
lil MUSLIM lil: LOL
Matt Slick: I have already answered you. I went to you again. Jesus was not lying.
lil MUSLIM lil: HE LET HIM lil MUSLIM lil: TO AN APPOINTED TIME
Matt Slick: Now I ask you again, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh or not?
lil MUSLIM lil: AND YES, HE SAID RABBII…………..
lil MUSLIM lil: MY GOD!
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
Matt Slick: Because I’m honest, I must ask you for permission to use this dialog on my web site. May I use it?
lil MUSLIM lil: HONEST? lil MUSLIM lil: YOU ARE SAYING JESUS WAS LYING IN JOHN 10:30
Matt Slick: May I use it or not?
Matt Slick: Are you afraid of it being published on my web site?
lil MUSLIM lil: LOL
lil MUSLIM lil: I HAVE YOU RECORDED lil MUSLIM lil: AND NOT JUST THAT MATT
Matt Slick: I am asking the question
lil MUSLIM lil: I HAVE SURPRISES FOR YOU
lil MUSLIM lil: ? lil MUSLIM lil: DO IT
Matt Slick: Good.
lil MUSLIM lil: I’LL BE HAVING A SITE SOON ?
lil MUSLIM lil: IN SHA’ ALLAH.
lil MUSLIM lil: LISTEN MAN
Matt Slick: This is a great example of how a Muslim can play games, misrepresent the facts, avoid answering questions, and not be fair in his discussion. lil MUSLIM lil: HOW ABOUT A PUBLIC DEBATE?!
lil MUSLIM lil: ME AND YOU? lil MUSLIM lil: WE DO NOT PLAY GAMES
Matt Slick: Oh yes, you are playing many games.
lil MUSLIM lil: WE DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL AS MUCH AS CHRISTIANS
lil MUSLIM lil: SO MOST OF THE TIME, WE ARE SOBER MINDED PEOPLE
Matt Slick: You will not answer my questions and you want to debate me?
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
Matt Slick: With you also avoid entry my questions in a debate?
lil MUSLIM lil: I ASKED YOU MAN
Matt Slick: Is this how you do your debates? You play games and you don’t answer questions?
lil MUSLIM lil: WAIT
lil MUSLIM lil: HJERE
lil MUSLIM lil: HERE*
Matt Slick: Why should I debate you in public if you will not even answer my questions in here?
lil MUSLIM lil: WAS JESUS LYING IN JOHN 10:30
Matt Slick: I have tried to answer all of your questions, several times. Yet, you have not responded to my questions.
lil MUSLIM lil: BUT NOT THAT LAST ONE
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
Matt Slick: For a bout the third or fourth time, I will answer the same question. Jesus was not lying and John 10:30
lil MUSLIM lil: OH OH
Matt Slick: I have asked you this question and you have never answered it “do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh or not?”
Matt Slick: Why would you not answer me a simple question?
Matt Slick: What are you afraid of?
Matt Slick: And why do you choose Jesus of being a liar?
Matt Slick: choose should be “accuse”
lil MUSLIM lil: OK
lil MUSLIM lil: THAT IS CLEAR
Matt Slick: I will accept your offer to debate, depending on the topic, and only you answer my questions in here.
lil MUSLIM lil: LIKE A SUN IN THE MID OF THE SKY
lil MUSLIM lil: QUESTION: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN? lil
Matt Slick: But since you do not answer my questions, you show me that you are not worthy as an opponent.
lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT IS YOUR QUESTIONS?
Matt Slick: You demand but you do not show politeness and respect.
lil MUSLIM lil: QUESTION*
lil MUSLIM lil: RESPECT? lil MUSLIM lil: EXCUSE ME?
lil MUSLIM lil: I HAVE IT RECORDED
Matt Slick: You have been very rude to me.
lil MUSLIM lil: ME SAYING, MR……………. MATT SLICK
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
Matt Slick: You have repeatedly ignored my questions.
lil MUSLIM lil: NOT REALLY
Matt Slick: I have answered your questions. You have not answered mine.
lil MUSLIM lil: I ASK QUESTIONS NOT YOU, OR EVEN THE POPE OR YOUR FAVORITE PASTOR CAN ANSWER lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN?
Matt Slick: You have repeatedly ignored my questions. I have been very polite and very fair with you.
Matt Slick: Yet, you continue to ignore what I ask. lil MUSLIM lil: THIS ONE QUESTION THAT YOU MISSED
lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN?
Matt Slick: Therefore, I cannot agree to debate you because you demonstrate that you are not worthy of a debate.
lil MUSLIM lil: OH MY GOD
lil MUSLIM lil: YOU ARE WRITING THIS TO SHOW IT IN YER SITE
lil MUSLIM lil: ?
lil MUSLIM lil: NOT REALLY MATT Matt Slick: I will publish this on my web site as an example of how you are an ethical in your approach.
lil MUSLIM lil: YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTION:
lil MUSLIM lil: WHAT DOES JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE MEAN?
Matt Slick: You cannot be trusted to have a proper discussion.
lil MUSLIM lil: NO PROBLEM
lil MUSLIM lil: AND I WILL PUBLISH THE SOUND ?
Matt Slick: For the fifth time, it means that Jesus is claiming equality with God (the Father).
lil MUSLIM lil: AS WELL
lil MUSLIM lil: OH
lil MUSLIM lil: CLAIMING EQUALITY…………
lil MUSLIM lil: OK Matt Slick: For the last time, “do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh or not?”
lil MUSLIM lil: QUESTION THAT YOU MISSED: DOES THAT MEAN THAT JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER?
Matt Slick: Know, it does not mean that Jesus is the father.
lil MUSLIM lil: OKAY
lil MUSLIM lil: HOW DO YOU SAY THAT JESUS WAS GOD IN THE FLESH?
lil MUSLIM lil: JESUS IS “GOD” IN THE FLESH?!
lil MUSLIM lil: HOW IS THAT……..
Matt Slick: Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh or not
lil MUSLIM lil: EXPLAIN. lil MUSLIM lil: WAIT
lil MUSLIM lil: LET ME QUOTE AGAIN WHAT I TYPES EARLIER
lil MUSLIM lil: SECONDS…
lil MUSLIM lil:
lil MUSLIM lil: NO lil MUSLIM lil:
lil MUSLIM lil: I ASK YOU AGAIN, WHY SHOULD I?
lil MUSLIM lil: lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS CAUGHT LYING IN JOHN 10:30
lil MUSLIM lil: lil MUSLIM lil: ISN’T THAT ENOUGH?! TO MAKE YOU HATE JESUS?
lil MUSLIM lil: lil MUSLIM lil: AND ALSO, IN GAL 3:13 HE WAS MADE A ”
lil MUSLIM lil: lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS A CURSE!
Matt Slick: If you deny that Jesus Christ is God in flesh, then you are like the Jewish leaders who also denied that he was God in flesh. You agree that he is not divine in nature like the Jews. You are like the Jews. You deny who Jesus really is. lil MUSLIM lil: HE WAS NEVER GOD IN THE FLESH, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE
Matt Slick: I will not talk with you anymore since you have proven to me that you’re not an able opponent.
Matt Slick: Goodbye
lil MUSLIM lil: IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL ABOUT HIM BEING GOD IN THE FLESH, THEN SHOW ME WHERE HE SAYS I AM GOD IN THE FLESH…………… THIS IS MY FINAL QUESTION………
Matt Slick: can you send me all of the text?
Matt Slick: i lost the first half
lil MUSLIM lil: SURE
Matt Slick: [email protected] lil MUSLIM lil: YOU WILL HAVE IT ALL
lil MUSLIM lil: SURE THING lil MUSLIM lil: ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER MY FINAL QUESTION?
Matt Slick: I will answer your final question only because I’ve requested the text and I’d needed in its entirety to be fair.
lil MUSLIM lil: I AM ASKING YOU TO BRING YOUR PROOF FROM THE BIBLE, HIM SAYING HE IS GOD IN THE FLESH, OR GOD DWELT IN HIM, IN HIS OWN WORDS.
Matt Slick: Jesus claims divinity in John 8:24 and John 8:58. You must cross-reference these with Exodus 3:14
lil MUSLIM lil: OK
Matt Slick: Let me post the verses for the record
Matt Slick: Exodus 3:14, “And God said to Moses, β€œI AM WHO I AM”; and He said, β€œThus you shall say to the sons of Israel, β€˜I AM has sent me to you.’”
lil MUSLIM lil: JESUS DENIES DIVINITY IN MARK 10:17-18 AND LUKE
Matt Slick: John 8:24 “β€œI said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins.” (the word “he” is not in the original greek)
lil MUSLIM lil: 18:18-19
Matt Slick: John 8:58, ” Jesus said to them, β€œTruly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”
Matt Slick: Those of the verses were Jesus claims divinity.
Matt Slick: You can call him a liar if you want.
Matt Slick: But I believe him.
lil MUSLIM lil: WHY CALLST YOU ME GOOD? THERE IS NONE GOOD BUT GOD!
Matt Slick: Was Jesus good?
Matt Slick: now, you said it was your last question. Did you lie to me?
Matt Slick: Is Lying okay? “Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him [Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf]?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it,” (Hadith Vol. 5, Book 59, #369).
lil MUSLIM lil: MATTHRE 4 TELL US ALL WHAT WE NEED ON THIS POINT, ABOUT HIS “GOODNESS” AND THAT IS IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE SEE IN JAMES 7
Matt Slick: I await the full text in email. Otherwise, I will post this last half of which you’re given me permission to post on my web site.
Matt Slick: Goodbye.

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